Sad to see your online version limited to 100 lines - it makes it pretty much useless for me now. I can totally understand why you've done this, however it's not really an incentive for me to buy your product as there's a few other formatters online that format thousands of lines. Thanks for the free use up until now though, the formatter has been a great help. Peace http://www.sqlinform.com/forum4/read.php?3,75,75#msg-75 Wed, 19 Jun 2013 18:50:54 +0200 Phorum 5.2.10 http://www.sqlinform.com/forum4/read.php?3,75,395#msg-395 http://www.sqlinform.com/forum4/read.php?3,75,395#msg-395
How about we just sit back and relax, and let Guido do all our other work for us?]]> Forerunner Suggestions, Questions, Comments Fri, 10 Dec 2010 21:53:02 +0100 http://www.sqlinform.com/forum4/read.php?3,75,266#msg-266 http://www.sqlinform.com/forum4/read.php?3,75,266#msg-266 Like everyone else having work buy it through the company is a process. I do not bother anymore.
Now I get what works for me and I can use at every job.

When I worked as an electrician I always bought my tools as I couldn't imagine trying to be productive without my chosen tools. This was expected and subsidized.

I think there should be a balance between company provided tools and developer selected tools. The funding of which should either have tax benefits, company funding, or both.

Mike]]> Michael Suggestions, Questions, Comments Wed, 26 May 2010 18:32:56 +0200 http://www.sqlinform.com/forum4/read.php?3,75,259#msg-259 http://www.sqlinform.com/forum4/read.php?3,75,259#msg-259
I find it hilarious that prior to the 100 line change it was a "great tool" and after the change it has become a "bad tool", I guess some people are so cheap (or naive).

$29 is irrelevant to any sized business or the wage of a sql programmer

given the amount of time it saves it is well worth it]]> Saurus Suggestions, Questions, Comments Wed, 19 May 2010 18:04:36 +0200 http://www.sqlinform.com/forum4/read.php?3,75,185#msg-185 http://www.sqlinform.com/forum4/read.php?3,75,185#msg-185
Sounds like one approach is to keep the 100 line limit for a free online service, but provide a unrestricted online version for licenced users (need to log in to a secure area) in addition to the download version.

There are a couple of issues here:

* Are you licencing a user or a machine? I know that I use many PCs in the course of a day, so accessing online from wherever I happen to be is helpful.[/*]
* Many corporate entities do not allow you to download software without it going through a rigorous approval process. Like ours.]]> ronfromkwon Suggestions, Questions, Comments Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:22:02 +0100 http://www.sqlinform.com/forum4/read.php?3,75,179#msg-179 http://www.sqlinform.com/forum4/read.php?3,75,179#msg-179
I changed to another job... I was thinking about using SQLinForm here too and......... oh God, no more Free??????
I'm currently working in a worlwide bank company and buying software is not that easy... its a big process and needs authorization from several areas inside the company, needs to be tested and certified by an PC Service area and blablabla.....

I will really miss this....

Please, think about a full ad-supporting version.]]> Renan Suggestions, Questions, Comments Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:16:41 +0100 http://www.sqlinform.com/forum4/read.php?3,75,160#msg-160 http://www.sqlinform.com/forum4/read.php?3,75,160#msg-160 Mufid Suggestions, Questions, Comments Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:43:26 +0100 http://www.sqlinform.com/forum4/read.php?3,75,132#msg-132 http://www.sqlinform.com/forum4/read.php?3,75,132#msg-132 thanks for your message.

You can install the software on a server and share it with all of your users.

There is no automatic upgrade function yet.

Hope this helps
Guido]]> guidomarcel Suggestions, Questions, Comments Thu, 24 Sep 2009 21:44:16 +0200 http://www.sqlinform.com/forum4/read.php?3,75,131#msg-131 http://www.sqlinform.com/forum4/read.php?3,75,131#msg-131
1. How do the upgrades work? Does the software automatically check for and download updates or is this something we have to do manually?
2. I'm probably Ok to pay for a site license, but I'd rather not have to send this around to multiple laptops, especially if the upgrade process is manual. Can this be installed on an internal web site for all developers?

Darcy Martin]]> Darcy Martin Suggestions, Questions, Comments Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:20:59 +0200 http://www.sqlinform.com/forum4/read.php?3,75,129#msg-129 http://www.sqlinform.com/forum4/read.php?3,75,129#msg-129 is the point, you know.... It is disappointing, but if you use this thing day after day, it REALLY IS worth the price. The author probably has weeks and weeks of solid work poured into this code.]]> Dunlavy Suggestions, Questions, Comments Wed, 23 Sep 2009 01:02:55 +0200 http://www.sqlinform.com/forum4/read.php?3,75,115#msg-115 http://www.sqlinform.com/forum4/read.php?3,75,115#msg-115
And as other people have already said, it seems unreasonable to have to pay a fee to use the desktop version when there are already many free alternatives elsewhere online. Granted, SQLinForm is much more customizable than any other online formatter I've found, but it's just not worth the price tag. Besides, I find a web-based tool much more convenient than a desktop application to begin with.

I implore you to get rid of this length limit for the online version, or at least to substantially increase it. If not, I just don't think this application will be of any use to me anymore. :(]]> MegaJar Suggestions, Questions, Comments Fri, 11 Sep 2009 17:27:12 +0200 http://www.sqlinform.com/forum4/read.php?3,75,95#msg-95 http://www.sqlinform.com/forum4/read.php?3,75,95#msg-95 thanks for your message. You are totally right, things must be indicated correctly. Therefore I removed "Free Online Formatter"
Regards
Guido]]> guidomarcel Suggestions, Questions, Comments Tue, 25 Aug 2009 23:58:20 +0200 http://www.sqlinform.com/forum4/read.php?3,75,94#msg-94 http://www.sqlinform.com/forum4/read.php?3,75,94#msg-94
BTW, you may wish to consider removing "The Free Online SQL Formatter." "The Free Online SQL Formatter w/ Stipulations Your Code Don't Get Too Big" isn't as catchy.]]> Dunlavy Suggestions, Questions, Comments Mon, 24 Aug 2009 22:54:21 +0200 http://www.sqlinform.com/forum4/read.php?3,75,92#msg-92 http://www.sqlinform.com/forum4/read.php?3,75,92#msg-92
This was my favorite formatting tool, but I have dozens of others available to me; there's no way I'm going to pay because I like the output slightly better than what comes out of TOAD. I'd still use it if there was an ad-supported version.]]> Michael Crutcher Suggestions, Questions, Comments Fri, 21 Aug 2009 22:31:33 +0200 http://www.sqlinform.com/forum4/read.php?3,75,91#msg-91 http://www.sqlinform.com/forum4/read.php?3,75,91#msg-91
I did love it, I even gave Thelen some headaches with my suggestions some years ago... I find that tool so good, so easy to use... but now that it is limited to 100 line I will go elsewhere... I just don't want to use a desktop version.
Just this week, I showed that tool to some of my colleagues... everywhere I go, when I need it (which is VERY sporadic, being a consultant, I may go 15 months or more without touching a sql code line...).

I will miss the ease of use and the fact that I did not need a bookmark or anything, just type sqlinform and hop, I was in...

Although if there is an online licence, I am more than happy to cough up the few bucks asked for it.

see ya around...
A la prochaine.]]> Wilfrid Suggestions, Questions, Comments Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:00:37 +0200 http://www.sqlinform.com/forum4/read.php?3,75,89#msg-89 http://www.sqlinform.com/forum4/read.php?3,75,89#msg-89 thanks for your post. The single user license is valid forever. No upgrade fees for later versions.
Regards
Guido]]> guidomarcel Suggestions, Questions, Comments Tue, 18 Aug 2009 21:45:13 +0200 http://www.sqlinform.com/forum4/read.php?3,75,88#msg-88 http://www.sqlinform.com/forum4/read.php?3,75,88#msg-88 If the author reading this, I would like to ask: If I buy a single user licence, for how long will I be able to use it, and when do I have to purchase another licence? I have put my E-mail address in this post, please post the information there as well, as I am willing to buy a licence anyway next month. Thank you for your hard work!]]> Ikon Suggestions, Questions, Comments Tue, 18 Aug 2009 10:49:47 +0200 http://www.sqlinform.com/forum4/read.php?3,75,86#msg-86 http://www.sqlinform.com/forum4/read.php?3,75,86#msg-86
unfortunately I will not be able to use your great tool in the future.
The reason for this is, that I used it mainly to format Cognos generated SQL and these SQLs are always big!
I also doubt that my company would allow me to use the desktop tool, because it would need to be tested and certified by our PC service provider before they install it ... :S

Viele Grüße aus Frankfurt und ich wünsche viel Erfolg!
christian]]> chris Suggestions, Questions, Comments Thu, 06 Aug 2009 14:31:22 +0200 http://www.sqlinform.com/forum4/read.php?3,75,85#msg-85 http://www.sqlinform.com/forum4/read.php?3,75,85#msg-85 I was a big fan of the tool, and think it is a real shame that you have restricted it to 100 lines - this tool was fairly useful before you restricted it.

Although your stats show that usage hasn't decreased, I wonder if you could get some metrics on how many people exceeded the 100 lines when they used the tool.

100 Lines sounds substantial, and I hope this restriction does increase your sales. I think other solutions may work too, as people above have suggested - like advertisement supported, or even putting advertising comments in the generated code. But, it is a great product and I hope you succeed with the new change. Unfortunately, there is no chance that I can swing my boss to purchase it, and I would rather not buy it personally - so in the meantime I'll use a free alternative.

Kind Regards
Scott.]]> Scott M Suggestions, Questions, Comments Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:20:24 +0200 http://www.sqlinform.com/forum4/read.php?3,75,84#msg-84 http://www.sqlinform.com/forum4/read.php?3,75,84#msg-84 many thanks for all of your comments. I appreciate them very much.

I added the 100 line option 2 weeks ago. What I can see so far in my web statistics is that the number of online users did not decrease since 21/07 and that 90% of the users come form Monday-Friday during office working hours. Therefore I assume that for the majority of corporate and private users the 100 lines are fine. Maybe it would be better to increase it to 150?! As always I am open for suggestions.
Regards
Guido]]> guidomarcel Suggestions, Questions, Comments Thu, 06 Aug 2009 01:05:14 +0200 http://www.sqlinform.com/forum4/read.php?3,75,83#msg-83 http://www.sqlinform.com/forum4/read.php?3,75,83#msg-83
like [www.helpndoc.com]

at home I use free version, but in the office we buy it, because all the developers are familiar with this tool and a few dollars for the company is nothing and everything is legal.]]> Davor Suggestions, Questions, Comments Wed, 05 Aug 2009 11:23:09 +0200 http://www.sqlinform.com/forum4/read.php?3,75,82#msg-82 http://www.sqlinform.com/forum4/read.php?3,75,82#msg-82
Here is an example: [www.dpriver.com]

It's just too easy to go somewhere else.

I recommend going totally uncrippled freeware for the Desktop Version, make it free for home use, but require a $99 registration fee for professional use. Go for market penetration. Yes independent developers will use it for free, but they will introduce it to major businesses that will pay to keep their offices legal.]]> ProDba Suggestions, Questions, Comments Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:48:13 +0200 http://www.sqlinform.com/forum4/read.php?3,75,81#msg-81 http://www.sqlinform.com/forum4/read.php?3,75,81#msg-81 J0E Suggestions, Questions, Comments Thu, 30 Jul 2009 22:56:38 +0200 http://www.sqlinform.com/forum4/read.php?3,75,80#msg-80 http://www.sqlinform.com/forum4/read.php?3,75,80#msg-80 jcrane Suggestions, Questions, Comments Thu, 30 Jul 2009 22:16:51 +0200 http://www.sqlinform.com/forum4/read.php?3,75,79#msg-79 http://www.sqlinform.com/forum4/read.php?3,75,79#msg-79
Why don't you make login for online version for everyone that pay you 10 Eur on paypal

Regards Davor]]> Davor Geci Suggestions, Questions, Comments Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:34:53 +0200 http://www.sqlinform.com/forum4/read.php?3,75,78#msg-78 http://www.sqlinform.com/forum4/read.php?3,75,78#msg-78 firefox Suggestions, Questions, Comments Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:59:57 +0200 http://www.sqlinform.com/forum4/read.php?3,75,76#msg-76 http://www.sqlinform.com/forum4/read.php?3,75,76#msg-76 Rachael Suggestions, Questions, Comments Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:15:41 +0200 http://www.sqlinform.com/forum4/read.php?3,75,75#msg-75 http://www.sqlinform.com/forum4/read.php?3,75,75#msg-75
Thanks for the free use up until now though, the formatter has been a great help.

Peace]]> ZeroDown Suggestions, Questions, Comments Wed, 22 Jul 2009 10:30:27 +0200